The scale · Decision 11 of 12
How fast the app will let you lose weight
During setup the app asks how fast you want to lose weight, and then refuses some of the answers. The choice stops at 0.8% of your body weight per week. That is not a round number, and it is not the one usually quoted from the study it comes from.
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- What the app does
- Limits the pace to 0.8% of body weight a week, and separately to 35% of what you burn, whichever limit is reached first. The backend fallback is 0.5%; current onboarding preselects its lower, rounded Steady option.
- How sure we are Thin , One small study, or an engineering choice.
- This rests on one trial of 24 elite athletes. It is the weakest evidence behind any number in the app, and a number we can defend is still better than no number.
The evidence for it, and it is one trial
One small trial informed the choice. It did not test the app’s 0.8% limit or establish a universal safe rate.
The calorie-target audit separates the implemented calculation from its assumptions, including gain and maintenance. The 0.8% limit is a product choice informed by this trial, not a tested safety threshold. The calorie lower bound now rounds upwards so the stated deficit cap survives rounding.
The trial the limit comes from
Garthe et al. (2011) assigned 24 elite athletes to lose weight at either 0.7% or 1.4% of body weight per week. All of them did four strength training sessions a week. Both groups lost about the same total weight (5.6% and 5.5%). The difference was in what they lost.
Why the default is 0.5% and not the limit
If you never answer that question, you get 0.5% a week, about 0.4 kg a week for an 80 kg person. That number is deliberately well below the limit. A default at four fifths of a maximum is not really a default. It is the maximum with a choice drawn next to it, and somebody who was never asked has not agreed to the top of our product’s permitted range. That range is not a clinical safety guarantee.
The backend fallback and the onboarding selection are different. Current onboarding preselects Steady; the 0.5% fallback applies to calculator requests with no pace. The old 800-profile comparison has been removed: its exact profile grid was not reproducible from the page, and being below resting expenditure is not a test of dietary safety.
The limit is not hidden in a settings screen or a help article. The screen that asks the question also says where the limit is and, in one sentence, what the trial found. If the app is going to refuse somebody the answer they wanted, it should tell them why right there.
The three paces you can pick are shown in kilograms rather than percentages, because kilograms are what people think in. The percentage is what does the refusing underneath. Current onboarding preselects Steady. The 0.5% backend fallback is used only if a calculator request supplies no pace.
The evidence against, and it is a small study
24 people, split 13 and 11. That is a very small trial, and the confidence intervals around everything above are wide. They were also elite athletes: young, lean, lifting weights four times a week under supervision, with their diets prescribed. Almost nobody using this app is that person, and nobody knows which way the difference goes for everyone else. Training experience, starting body composition and intervention duration can all change the response.
The trial also lasted 8.5 weeks in the slow group and 5.3 in the fast one, so it says nothing about a year. And it measured lean body mass with a DEXA scan, which cannot tell muscle apart from the water and glycogen that shift with a bigger calorie deficit. A −0.2% non-significant change cannot establish muscle loss.
We used it anyway, because a number we can defend is better than no number. The alternative was the fixed rule this app started with, 20% under what you burn, which gave lighter, active people a loss rate above 1% a week without ever asking them. But it is one small study on people unlike you, and it is the weakest evidence on these pages.
Why a heavy person gets a second, tighter limit
A percentage of body weight does not protect heavy people, because their body weight is what makes the number large. At 180 kg, 1% a week is 1.8 kg a week, about 1,980 kcal a day below what that person burns.
So there is a second limit: the pre-rounding deficit is capped at 35% of estimated expenditure. For heavy, inactive people it applies before the body-weight limit does, which is the right way round.
We are not aware of a trial that tested 35% specifically. We chose it as a product guardrail rather than deriving it from a study, and we would rather say that plainly than attach a citation that does not test it.
The goal date is the least reliable number we show you
The date converts your calorie deficit into weeks using 7,700 kcal per kilogram of body weight, a straight line based on the energy stored in body fat. It assumes everything you lose is fat, and that what you burn does not fall as you get lighter. The calculation omits important physiology, and often overpredicts long-term loss as expenditure falls. Early water and lean-tissue changes can instead make scale loss faster than a fat-only calculation.
Early water and glycogen changes vary by diet and person. The line cannot forecast them or identify how much of a change is fat.
The proper, dynamic version of this calculation is the subject of Hall et al. (2011). Their starting point is that you cannot predict body weight over time accurately with a fixed rule. You have to account for how energy balance changes as you go. We have read that paper's abstract and its title, not its full model, and we are not implementing it.
What we do instead is limit the error. Weeks are rounded up, because a plan that finishes late is a smaller error than one that finishes early. No date is shown beyond two years, which is where the straight line is most wrong and a date is least useful. And when the calorie minimum is what limits your pace, the screen says so and shows no date at all. The alternative would be printing a technically correct 75 weeks, worked out from a rate of 0.04 kg a week.
Treat it as an illustration of the arithmetic you chose, not a forecast. The trend chart is a smoothed summary of measured body weights, not a measurement of fat loss or a guarantee that the calorie estimate is correct.